TIME Magazine Article About the Dorje Shugden Controversy

Below are a couple of quotes from the Article Published Yesterday in Time Magazine as one of their top 5 stories:

The problem is that in Tibet most people shun whom they think the Dalai Lama wants them to shun. The protesters display photos of signs they say have gone up recently in Tibet urging shopkeepers not to do business with tainted monks. They could be written by anybody, but most people assume they know the ultimate author of the signs

Norden, the Shugden spokesperson, observes correctly that even if the Dalai Lama is not behind the current Shugden woes, “if he wanted it to stop, all he’d have to do would be to snap his fingers.” Yet no-one expects that.

Time Magazine – The Dalai Lama’s Buddhist Foes

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2 responses to “TIME Magazine Article About the Dorje Shugden Controversy

  • happynkter

    I thought this was a fairly balanced report. I am glad someone covered it.

    Also, did you see this? The Dalai Lama is considering APPOINTING his own successor!
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1686573,00.html

    As Alice said when she fell down the rabbit hole, things just keep getting curiouser and curiouser.

    – Happy

  • goldenmala

    I’ve heard about the Dalai Lama appointing his own successor. It’s likely to be the Kamarpa which was also appointed as the lineage holder of the Kagyu school by the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama is also causing schism in the Kagyu lineage by appointing this Kamarpa. A large percentage of Kagyu’s don’t follow the Dalai Lama appointed Kamarpa, instead they follow the Kamarpa appointed by the Shamarpa.

    Below is part of an interview in Buddhism Today with Trinley Thaye Dorje (the Kamarpa appointed according to the traditions of the Kagyu lineage).

    Buddhism Today: How is a Karmapa recognized?

    Trinley Thaye Dorje: The main holders of the Karma Kagyu Lineage are the so-called Black Hat Karmapas and the Red Hat Karmapas. The first refers to my own line of reincarnations. The later refers to the line of reincarnations of the Kunzig Shamarpas. In many cases the Karmapas have recognized the respective next Shamarpa and the Shamarpas in turn the next Karmapa. This is also what has occurred with my recognition. It was the 14th Kunzig Shamar Rinpoche who confirmed that I am the incarnation of the 16th Karmapa.
    Of course, the whole principle of reincarnation is not easy to understand, in particular if one is not familiar with Buddhism. Normally, samsaric beings are reborn through the power of their karma and their emotions. In the case of the successive lines of the Karmapa reincarnations this is different. Taking rebirth happens due to the wish to be reborn to help sentient beings. In this way I took rebirth as the 17th Karmapa.

    Buddhism Today: The Dalai Lama has not recognized you as the Karmapa. Would such recognition be important for you?

    Trinley Thaye Dorje: The Dalai Lama is certainly a great man. The Karma Kagyu school, however, is an independent lineage and, according to our tradition, the Karmapas have to be confirmed in this Karma Kagyu lineage and not by the Dalai Lama. There is no need for that.

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